East's 4H bid is a shocker. It violates the principle that once having fully described your hand with the pre-empt, you hand the captaincy to partner. NS bidding seems odd.
North should bid game on the first round. In response to a takeout double we use what are called limit bids. That is most of the time you limit your hand immediately by how high you bid. Occasionally when you do not know precisely which denomination you want to play in you cue-bid the opponents suit to establish a forcing auction. Some play that as a one round force but it is probably easiest at least initially to play it as a game force.
Excuse me Hesitator!! (Grumble grumble). Easts shocking bid I agree is atrocious, however doubled and three light it would have been a very good board, (4 light ... Not so good!). Handing captaincy to partner works well in theory but all partners are different and as such it is a factor to be taken into consideration when bidding. Eat your words!!
Down five looks a normal outcome here. There is only one entry to dummy so two spades, three hearts, one diamond and two clubs look possible for the defense.
Grumpy, if pard did that to me I would be, well, grumpy. The reason is that East is breaking the 2nd Commandment of bridge, which is "you shall not bid partners hand for them". East is hoping West has a hand suitable for a sacrifice but hasn't or won't sacrifice. If this partnership endures west will become more timid and east even more aggressive, as west will always think "if east bids game on rubbish like that, then I don't want to make any chirp at al1" East is blind to what west has, west can see all 13 cards, but east knows best. Really? I agree knowing your partner is important, eg some have relatively strong invites, thus you can accept with a lighter than normal hand, and vice versa - that is really a partnership understanding that has developed, but separate from bidding partners hand. OK, I made that bit up about the 2nd Commandment
East's 4H bid is a shocker. It violates the principle that once having fully described your hand with the pre-empt, you hand the captaincy to partner.
ReplyDeleteNS bidding seems odd.
North should bid game on the first round. In response to a takeout double we use what are called limit bids. That is most of the time you limit your hand immediately by how high you bid. Occasionally when you do not know precisely which denomination you want to play in you cue-bid the opponents suit to establish a forcing auction. Some play that as a one round force but it is probably easiest at least initially to play it as a game force.
DeleteExcuse me Hesitator!! (Grumble grumble). Easts shocking bid I agree is atrocious, however doubled and three light it would have been a very good board, (4 light ... Not so good!). Handing captaincy to partner works well in theory but all partners are different and as such it is a factor to be taken into consideration when bidding. Eat your words!!
ReplyDeleteDown five looks a normal outcome here. There is only one entry to dummy so two spades, three hearts, one diamond and two clubs look possible for the defense.
DeleteGrumpy, if pard did that to me I would be, well, grumpy. The reason is that East is breaking the 2nd Commandment of bridge, which is "you shall not bid partners hand for them".
ReplyDeleteEast is hoping West has a hand suitable for a sacrifice but hasn't or won't sacrifice. If this partnership endures west will become more timid and east even more aggressive, as west will always think "if east bids game on rubbish like that, then I don't want to make any chirp at al1" East is blind to what west has, west can see all 13 cards, but east knows best. Really? I agree knowing your partner is important, eg some have relatively strong invites, thus you can accept with a lighter than normal hand, and vice versa - that is really a partnership understanding that has developed, but separate from bidding partners hand.
OK, I made that bit up about the 2nd Commandment