Interesting. North's bid is arguably 1NT, strange as it may seem. I think 5 card majors were used by this pair, thus the delayed support for spades only shows a doubleton. 4D appears to be cue bidding, but 4H is then also a cue bid - the problem here is that if they cue first and 2nd round controls then South should have bid 4C, if they bid 1st round controls then North should not bid 4H.
I would bid 3H even if playing five-card majors. It seems reasonably likely that partner might have one or two hearts and not six spades and have nowhere sensible to go over 3S.
The advantage of 1NT as 1st response is that it then makes it easier to describe the long hearts as long as pard rebids over 1NT. The downside of course is that u can get left in an ugly 1NT. If your partnership agreement is that pard will rebid over 1NT with 5M4m shapes (as they should) and opens 1NT with 5M332 and 12-14, then the risk of getting left in 1NT is not overly great.
Pam had a remarkable hand at one NZ Trial in 2007 where she held the following 6-count.
- QJT9xxxx - QJT9x
At another table Ashley Bach as partner of this hand opened 1S and Michael Whibley responded a semi-forcing 1NT. They were playing a 2/1 GF system. Michael explained to me how partner would not pass very often. To which I said yes but you know every time he passes it is wrong. He was a bit constrained by his system. Luckily the bidding continued
1S 1NT 3D 3H 4H
With partner opening spades and jumping in diamonds Michael was not confident of very many useful fitting cards. Six was cold however when partner held
Jxxxx AK AKxx Ax
Thereafter we coined the term "Whibley No Trump" for any 1NT response on a highly distributional hand.
We were more successful thanks to system, a judgement decision by me as opener and very good judgement from Pam (and of course some luck).
Firstly system we had an opening bid that showed 18-19 balanced. With poor spades i chose to show a balanced hand rather than bidding out my 5-4 shape. Pam then knowing she was opposite 18-19 balanced didn't know what to do. She reasoned she would never find out exactly what she needed to know - our system wasn't optimised for 8-5 hands. So she closed her eyes and bid 6H. The fortuitous dummy was all she needed.
Interesting. North's bid is arguably 1NT, strange as it may seem. I think 5 card majors were used by this pair, thus the delayed support for spades only shows a doubleton. 4D appears to be cue bidding, but 4H is then also a cue bid - the problem here is that if they cue first and 2nd round controls then South should have bid 4C, if they bid 1st round controls then North should not bid 4H.
ReplyDeleteI would bid 3H even if playing five-card majors. It seems reasonably likely that partner might have one or two hearts and not six spades and have nowhere sensible to go over 3S.
ReplyDeleteWould you bid 3 hearts as a first response or as a second response?
DeleteIf you have an agreement that 3H is weak with seven hearts then you can bid it immediately.
DeleteThe advantage of 1NT as 1st response is that it then makes it easier to describe the long hearts as long as pard rebids over 1NT. The downside of course is that u can get left in an ugly 1NT. If your partnership agreement is that pard will rebid over 1NT with 5M4m shapes (as they should) and opens 1NT with 5M332 and 12-14, then the risk of getting left in 1NT is not overly great.
ReplyDeletePam had a remarkable hand at one NZ Trial in 2007 where she held the following 6-count.
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QJT9xxxx
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QJT9x
At another table Ashley Bach as partner of this hand opened 1S and Michael Whibley responded a semi-forcing 1NT. They were playing a 2/1 GF system. Michael explained to me how partner would not pass very often. To which I said yes but you know every time he passes it is wrong. He was a bit constrained by his system. Luckily the bidding continued
1S 1NT
3D 3H
4H
With partner opening spades and jumping in diamonds Michael was not confident of very many useful fitting cards. Six was cold however when partner held
Jxxxx
AK
AKxx
Ax
Thereafter we coined the term "Whibley No Trump" for any 1NT response on a highly distributional hand.
We were more successful thanks to system, a judgement decision by me as opener and very good judgement from Pam (and of course some luck).
Firstly system we had an opening bid that showed 18-19 balanced. With poor spades i chose to show a balanced hand rather than bidding out my 5-4 shape. Pam then knowing she was opposite 18-19 balanced didn't know what to do. She reasoned she would never find out exactly what she needed to know - our system wasn't optimised for 8-5 hands. So she closed her eyes and bid 6H. The fortuitous dummy was all she needed.